Hey thought I would ask if anyone had decoded the canbus messages for the buttons in the cab from a later model Class tractor; a 2017 Xerion specifically?
I see it has been successfully done on Fendt, with a mcp2515/Arduino.
I Have decided the sequence management buttons on a Arion stage 5. Xerion is a different beast so would expect the messages to be different. Xerion joystick would be similar to the combine and I know the joystick buttons are just simple normally open switches on them. They are easy to read the digital signal at the joystick and could use a relay to trigger from aog.
Probably will be similar to this? No idea on the canbus codes it creates but if you just want to know the button state it’s quite easy to rig something up
Hello @RGM, i am searching for the can Messages of the Claas Joystick (C-Motion). Maybe your decoded Adress off the sequence Management buttons can help me to decode the other Messages.
I have an Claas Arion 660 (BJ. 2017)
Which CAN ID and which CAN Message have you for the sequence Management buttons decoded?
I know that the control unit of the armrest (MFA 100) is connected to the CAN 2 Claas vehicle CAN Bus, so i read this BUS at the OBD Socket with an MCP2515 and an Arduino.
Thank you for your Help.
Best greetings from Germany!
Here are the CSM button messages i have decoded, your tractor is a T4F i think and should be the same as the St5. The Axion A23 ones are for the older ArionT3b/AxionT4 with the older non touch CEBIS
They are in Tony’s @CommonRail Teensy CAN ino.
I was only interested in these messages at the time so never looked for anything else. Let us know how you go and if you find anything else interesting.
Cheers from New Zealand
| Description | ID_HEX | RTR Hex | IDE Hex | DLC | D0 | D1 | D2 | D3 | D4 | D5 | D6 | D7 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| CSM buttons released St5 | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 |
| CSM 2 pressed St5 | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 22 |
| CSM 1 pressed St5 | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 7A |
| AXION A23 CSM1 pressed | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | F1 | FC | FF | FF | FF | FF | FF | 67 |
| AXION A23 CSM2 pressed | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | F4 | FC | FF | FF | FF | FF | FF | 3F |
| AXION A23 CSM released | 14204146 | 0 | 1 | 8 | F0 | FC | FF | FF | FF | FF | FF | 1D |
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Hi Ryan, Thanks for the fast answer.
I don’t know if my Arion is an T4F, I have the none Touch CEBIS but it is integrated in the armrest. Ohh…i have the mistake, my Arion is only an 650 BJ2017 (not an 660 what I said), so it is an T3b.
Yes if I found out more addresses, i will let you know.
Maybe you have a Tipp for me how to find the other ones? On a Fendt S4 I decoded the Go & End Buttons with tracking the K-BUS and press each Button 10 Times, after that I put the Datas in a Database and looked which CAN Message was there 10 Times.
Is there an easier way?
Cheers
I found the ID the same whatever series 3b or st5 just the data sums to be different.
As for working out the messages, I have used the same way as you but also with arduino and mcp2515 you can use this can sniffer GitHub - adamtheone/canDrive: Tools for hacking your car
I have found it useful as it sorts the messages and hylights new data and you can just save the messages to a decoded list. There is some way to get it to send messages but i didn’t get that to work. It took a bit to install and make work but if you follow his video instructions it’s not too hard.
Hello, is this right place (right side of seat) to search can2 on claas arion 650 Cebis A37 2016? Aim to access the can bus to enter headland button messages.
If your tractor is steer ready there is the ATP A009 module in that area. On its 6 way connector there is the tractor can and steering can. That’s where I have connected. If you don’t have a steer ready tractor with ATP module you can use the obd2 diagnostic plug behind the seat.
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Thanks for the answer. This is no steering ready Tractor. Steering will be analog with Cytron.
Just thinking, can I use Kaipoimodv4.1 board with nano and udp setup with Can-shield to send these CSM button messages ton Can-bus 2.
From what Tony said, the nano doesn’t have enough memory to run can and udp. That’s why the teensy is used. To do what you want the new all on one board would have the hardware to do it but there hasn’t been any code written that I know of that will steer with cytron and also connect to can at the same time.
Maybe this needs a separate nano to handle can messages. Ugly solution but better than soldering directly to the c-motion handle.
Is there any code available that takes advantage of those messages you decoded. It would help to make a simple can-input box
I don’t have any code other than what is in the teensy canbus. I do remember editing the tractor simulator uno code to send one of these messages instead of the autosteer engage message to confirm I had found the correct message.
If you have digital outputs from aog then a uno/can shield could read these and send the message. Would still require some coding though.
@timoy
Were you find the can bus on the claas arion?
Have you tried to write code to turn on autoster from the button on c-motion?
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I was only doing csm controls via the can bus. I was just starting to make some code for a separate nano. On the other hand it might be a nicer solution to bring csm button control to some teensy based version.
The can bus should be found on the obd connector
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Which of The connectors in The OBD behind The Seat is The canbus for headland button (activate autosteer)
The obd2 canbus pinout depends what model your tractor is. There are black and white obd2 and the canbus pins are different. For the headland management (CSM) buttons you need the claas canbus this is in the obd2 plug pins 3 hi 11 low. And in white version claas can low is pin 12 and can hi 13.
If you want to steer then you need to connect to steering canbus but this is not in the obd2 and need to make a breakout harness at the atp module. This also has claas can so I get both there.
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@RGM Thanks for your help.
I have developed my own autosteering system. I have a canbus sniffer. The tractor is not steer ready, so we just wanted to use the engage button in the C-motion joystick.
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Did not make it work. I tried 3 places with canbus reader. Did talk with local Claas dealer. To get access to the joystick via canbus it need some sort of activation code from Claas.
Just made it work today at a new Holland t7.220
Can ID: 18FFB406, bite 5 change from 03 to 07🫡
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Well this is a thread I could have used earlier today… 3as looking for a button on a lexion joystick. Tried steering main bus on atp009, and the two canbus on CDS port, no joy. Had bought some plugs to make a fly lead for atp009 which is missing steering bus but they didn’t fit. Bet it’s in there…
Got the captures tho, so will see if that ID turns up - thanks !
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