CanBus for Beginners - Super Simple

I did that just like @CommonRail said. However, I’ve had problems with the virtual GPS-port freezing. I still don’t know if it was a bug in the firmware or a faulty connection somewhere.
However, I figured out that for me it is way more conventient to use a USB-Ethernet adapter together with the Teensy’s native Ethernet.

Hello,

Thank for the informations. Teensy 4.1 is on the way. Will test it as soon I received it.
What CAN transceiver did you used with the Teensy ?

Math

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I used three of these.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/324199453070

Compared to the sometimes temperamental esp32 the teensy is a dream to use!

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Finally running on the tractor. Some field testing tomorrow, WAS is still the old analogue one in this setup, didn’t want to break the existing working setup all at once

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With some help of @CommonRail i’ve succeeded to readout the driving speed with the isobus.
It is possible to readout the speed in terms of 10th m/h with PGN CFE48F0.

Next callenge to log it with some gps location and display it on the web :).

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So first of all big Thanks to @CommonRail for helping me out :metal:
I managed to get a Deutz with pre installed Danfoss Valve to work with agopengps.
This Deutz has a connector under the right console where all Can Bus are accessible, makes it easier to find the right one. The bus is for steering etc is called AutoG.

We got it working after a while, but the main Problem that we had, we weren’t driving so the Tractor would not steer :see_no_evil:
The next step is buying RTK Receivers and build the full system.

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Hello

I have a T7.210 New Holland with a preinstalled autosteer. I was ready to see where were the wires that I wanted to connect . When I dismout the hiding place, I saw that the wires that I wanted weren’t here. After calling the sealer, He said that New Holland built after 2018 haven’t got the “standard wiring” (with a 3 wire angle sensor…) and everything is connected by ISObus on the Trimble (and that can also be used with other RTK systems, but with a transceiver). So, does there is a solution wich exist, or I’ll need to install a 24V motor on my steering wheel ?

Thank you for your answers

Val

You need to wire up the standard PWM valves located on the steering orbital, located behind engine and front of the cabin. Don’t worry about anything CANBUS with New Holland

Did you get the manual? StackPath

@CommonRail and @Larsvest There is a small problem. Yes I bought the manual several month ago, but the latest release version was for 2015 tractors. The orbitrol isn’t the same than what’s on the book (the wiring is also different).
the manifold (=orbitrol) hasn’t got the same wiring position.

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that’s on the older version,

@Larsvest The X-711, X-623 and X-710 aren’t here anymore.

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On 2018 (and before) tractors, there should be 3 relays . On my tractor, there are only 2 (one for crank isolate, and the other for the right or lef solenoid (or maybe both or another thing ?)
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And there are 4 wire which come from the steering sensors (two are yellow, the color used by NH to indicate the signal wire).

So, there is any way to pass by the isobus plug ?

Thank you for your answers

Val

All right then.
Was: find out if it is can or analog. Measure voltage between signal wires and gnd, if you get between 0 and 5 v depending on steer angle. Then you have analog was.

Relay: with engine running, put your ear at relay (or measure) while you ask someone to flip the autosteer Button.
Hopefully you get reaction and know which is for autosteer. Read wire number, they should be same at the proportional valve.
If you have luck, then connect your cytron there.
Have you looked for wire connectors in the compartment for traktor computer behind seat ( right side)?

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Thank you for your answer. I find the good wire on the WAS (2177) ( 1V at the right, 2.5 at the middle (and probably 4 at the left)). (it’s powered in 5v (4.96V exactly). (In cab, this wire number isn’t powered).

The problem isn’t to know which relay is for wich solenoid, but to know why there is only one remaining instead of 2. On the user manual, that’s written that the relay is for autoguidance stop valve. (this relay has got 4 wires, (12V, ground, 2180 (0.66V) and 2181 (0V).

Yes I looked at the other compartment on the ECU, but there isn’t the good amount of wires, and only 2 wires give the informations (2 CAN wires : 390 and 391).

On the orbitrol, I have a 4 pin plug, on wich there is 5200 wire (12v I think), ground, 3590 and 3914.

There is also a 10 wires plug, on wich there is 5V (2014), ground, 5200 (should be 12V), 391 and 392 (CAN wires), 2095 blue (5V ground I think), 2176, 2177, 2179, 2180 (yellow wires).

I don’t know which wire can lead to the dump valve wich unlock the other valve, and I don’t know where is the pressure sensor.

So I think that I’ll do with a 24V motor because I don’t know wich wire I could use to do what I want

I think you could find 2177 from 10 wire plug at a not used 4 wire plug around generator /radiator close to the WAS plug. It seems one would shift was plug to that one when autosteer controller is installed (maybe with Y plugs)
What wires do you have at the roof top? Maybe controller is combined with GPS unit for new t7.

Show a photo of your steering orbital so we can see the valves.

It seems some of the t5 t6 or t7 made year 2017 to 2019 are made with can bus autosteer, so you can use Alan’s canbus programs.
Someone has made a kit to connect jd system to cnh.
http://docplayer.net/154390551-Installation-manual-agra-gps-cnh-jd-bridge-for-case-new-holland-rowcrop-tractor

If we see a photo of the valve we can then give correct information.

Allan is using the Fendt only files. We have Valtra, MF, Deutz, JCB and Claas using the Danfoss files and maybe CNH if it has a Danfoss valve PVED-CL or CLS

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Are the can bus orbital units like this WAS connected or do they just take a valve position setting? Not had anything to do with them yet.

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WAS is connected to the orbital with the steering controller onboard, so just tell it where you want the wheels and it sorts them out.

Unlike the Fendt with the valve and steering controller separate

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Where do I get a service manual for our Valtra T174?

What do you need to know? Are you going to install autosteer?