Novatel Smart7 drop in replacement

GPS / RTK / GNSS
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Backstory: About a year ago i started experimenting with a drop in replacement for Trimble AG382. The goal was to create a cheaper alternative. Allthough dealing with TSIP turned out be a big pain, i managed to get it working with minor hiccups. Trimble AG-382 TSIP

Recently i got my hands on a Novatel Smart7, which turned out te be a game changer. It only took me about a day to get a first prototype running.

system layout: F9P <-> STM32 <-> Fendt/STW VD03

F9P: RTK GNSS solution, time source
STM32: bridge between F9P and Fendt. responds to Novatel commands/logs and forwards rtcm to F9P
STW VD03: genuine AGCO, part of Fendt Autosteer contains modem/ntrip client, gyro, …

My main goal was to get a 100% working drop in replacement working on Fendt. Once installed all settings can be done within the vario terminal.
So far all tests were successful, i will keep on testing/experimentig.

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Sounds interesting.

So this would replace the smart7 when it is broken ?

You are using the original Fendt autosteer software?

Would you like to share more details (protocols/code/…)?

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I would expect no need to wait for the Smart7 to get broken. The tractor can be ordered without the GNSS receiver.

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Haha yes. Ok.
So it would make the factory GPS installation cheaper :+1:

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hi, great job! Can you tell what commands the receiver exchanges with the controller? How can I make the controller take the receiver for a Smart 7?

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hi, great job! Can you tell what commands the receiver exchanges with the controller? How can I make the controller take the receiver for a Smart 7?

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Smart7 talks Novatel Commands & Logs

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And would you like to share a little bit more?

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I don’t really understand this, maybe you can give me a ready-made solution?

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@Zhenya85
This is still in developing phase. Same features/options are not fully implemented yet. At this point i am not able to share a solution.

@Benjamin
This is WIP, at this point i am only able to share pictures. I will however try to answer questions.

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To get it recognized as Smart7 u need some kind of man in the middle. I used the STM32 to respond to controller requests and forward GNSS data. But any mcu with at least 2 uarts will do the job.
Smart7 has 3 serial ports (115200 8 N 1): COM1 logs/command, COM2 not used, COM3 correction data

Data exchanged is humanly readable, all ASCII no encryption/obfuscation. Pretty simple and easy to understand. ASCII Header is a good starting point. It might look something like this:
Controller: “log rtkassista”
Smart7: “#RTKASSISTA,COM1,0,81.0,UNKNOWN,0,1.252,02440000,5db3,15833;ENABLE*f0a99372”

Collection of all Command/Logs

Initialization will look similar to: (CRLF, ACKs and serial redacted)

COM1

C: interfacemode com1 novatel novatel on
C: unlogall true
C: log hwconfigtablerawa
S: #HWCONFIGTABLERAWA,COM1,0,80.0,UNKNOWN,0,1.408,02440000,ed5f,15833;0,1023,1,77,2*e020a574
C: log versiona
S: #VERSIONA,COM1,0,80.0,UNKNOWN,0,5.918,02440000,3681,15833;1,GPSCARD,“FFNRNNTBN”,“XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX”,“OEM7700-1.02”,“OA7CR0603RN0000”,“OM7BR0100RB0000”,“2019/Aug/15”,“08:21:01”*xxxxxxxx
C: serialconfig com3 115200 n 8 1 n on
C: interfacemode com3 novatel novatel on
C: interfacemode com3 none novatel off

COM3

C: unlogall com3

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Still would love for you to pull back the curtain a little further on your project here! Any fendt specific handshaking involved? Are you planning on selling your f9p adapter? If so, I would be interested.

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How is this project going? I would also be interested in this.

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Good afternoon. I’m interested too!

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Hey looks like something very usefull !! If you ever get to the point of wanting to release your board and software to do this im interested!!

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Hey, any updates ? got some neighbors who have topcom receiver on their fendt and it’s not compatible with centipede, pain in the ass… they migh be interested in your solution…

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Hi, I can give you more information if yo are still interrested.

Edited : No phone numbers here pls

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I am equipped with a Fendt Novatel smart7, I would be interested in knowing more about the installation and connection of this system. THANKS

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Hi, how can I contact you? Phone/WhatsApp or mail?
You’re from Germany?

Regards

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hello I too would be interested, I am in France. Thanks