Roll corrected RTK position from AOG to other Devices with serial RS232

I think ideally a PoE ethernet serial server (5v TTL version) for the f9p, it can send UDP nmea and receive UDP rtcm (ntrip from AgIO). Then another ethernet serial server (rs232 version) at the 20/20 to convert the UDP nmea to rs232.

A tcp232-t2 works well but would need a PoE splitter/midspan at the f9p and the other one at the 20/20 would need a ttl-rs232 adapter. There are ready made PoE devices too. A PoE panda PCB could also add in IMU roll in place of the 1st tcp232.

This gets me thinking about the AiO Combo PCB I designed this winter. It costs about the same as the v4.5 Micro but is smaller, still supports dual Std or Micro F9P, gm982, rs232, triple can bus, esp32 wifi socket, 8 machine/section outputs, on-board Cytron & BNO socket. The idea is that with different firmwares it could be a jack-of-all-trades PCB, youā€™d only need to stock/build one PCB design for many applications & only carry one as a backup. It doesnā€™t have provision for PoE thoughā€¦:thinking: Testing & firmware coding is ongoing.

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If your GPS antenna is mounted on the bar itself or on the lid of a row unit, roll shouldnā€™t be an issue as itā€™s low enough to really not matter. It would be far more accurate, laterally, than roll-corrected tractor GPS feeding the 20/20 and having it estimate the trailer position.

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there is some truth to that. but on large terraces I would really like to have roll comp if given the option.

But that is a totally different deal than sending from GPS_Out.
Maybe a solution would be Arduino code to convert Panda/paogi strings to gga/vtg. Then, that could either go on a teensy Panda board on the Implement, or on its own board on the tractor network, or on whatever aio board youā€™re using

Same here. We have a few places on the back side of terraces that are between a 10 and 15 degree angle. Roll makes a big difference!

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If your antenna is 2.5ā€™ off the ground, a 15 degree roll is about 6-8" of lateral offset. Pretty sure trailering estimation error and draft will be a lot more than that if you used corrected GPS from the tractor.

Also at that slope, your planter bar is also 4% narrower, at least if youā€™re driving top-down AB lines (which all our lines are). An 8 row 30" planter would be 8" narrower than on flat ground. hope that makes sense.

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Yes that makes sense, but roll corrected tractor GPS works good enough for me, and an implement receiver is not worth the added complexity, unless I can gain implement guidance. If Iā€™m using tractor GPS, my antenna height will be 10 feet, not 2.5 feet, and if Iā€™m on my combine, my antenna height is something like 13.5 ft. with no trailing implement error involved.

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on a 10 ft height i think its more like 2-3 ft??

yes correct.

Thereā€™s no doubt thereā€™s a place for roll-corrected GPS out in AOG and most commercial systems offer this.

Here is a roll corrected test version. In AOG Position.designer.cs has to be edited to send a pgn.

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Maybe Iā€™m missing something, but Iā€™m using a fairly old dual board that I believe does all roll calcs on board. I set my tractors antenna height at zero. So maybe GPS out would send roll corrected position already?? Just thought of it this morning.

Pretty sure dual GPS outputs the raw GPS position of one antenna, and also the heading and roll angle of the of the other antenna. AOG still has to process that roll angle and translate the GPS position down to the axle.

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sounds reasonable. But i still have no height in my tractor offsett.

Hereā€™s a copy of AOG from the uturn branch (as of today) modified to output corrected position along with a (slightly modified) copy of GPS_Out.exe from the RollCorrected branch. Note that the GGA/RMC output timestamp is currently just using the computerā€™s Windows time but maybe in the future we can get the actually GPS timestamp from the original nmea sentence coming into AgIO. I donā€™t have a good way to test this corrected position output, maybe some of you ā€œsouthern neighborsā€ can give it at try. Iā€™m not sure how to test it other then trying it on a field.

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I will try as soon as I get my 20/20

We got the planter outside today and tried GPS Out. I didnā€™t have any problems getting it to talk to the 20/20, but Iā€™m showing a difference in the degrees of roll between AOG and GPS out. Any ideas whatā€™s going on?

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It is just for reference. It is not zeroed-out from AOG, it is the imu value received by AGIO.

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Ok. So are the invert and swap buttons just for looks? They donā€™t affect the position GPS out is sending?

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Yes they donā€™t affect anything.

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Perfect. Makes sense

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