I could have done with that video last week when I finally got UDP working on one of my tractors. Knowing next to nothing about udp previously, it was only while searching old topics I found a comment about setting router IP and realised I needed to set a static IP in Windows settings for the toughbook.
It would probably be very useful to have videos or documents that point out and explain a lot of the more common mistakes when building Agopengps, for those of us who don’t have a wealth of experience with all the different aspects of agopen.
Having said that, I have heard that early meccano instructions used to contain deliberate errors to teach kids about problem solving.
Hi world
I was wondering if anyone had tried to include PoE (Power over Ethernet) technology in their Ethernet network. I don’t know much about it but I like the idea of a single cable for power and data (like USB in fact).
Not for AOG but for home cameras cut 2 unused wires find some wall plug adapter and solder adapter output to those wires, (voltage drop needs to be accounted) for longer distance you use step up coverter to 44 - 50v then at other end step down to 12v. For AOG maybe 5v will work for short distance.
If we have to move to UDP it would be good to power nano from it why exactly we can’t use 12 to 5v converter for section control for relay board and for nano also?(from schematic powered from usb).
You’ll need some serious power and $$$ to make it work reliably. There are those connector things that you can run subsequent power adaptors with, but then you are powering thru the wimpy ethernet connector as well.
Great for cameras POE, but as the power goes up so do the $ exponentially. An acceptable POE switch that would also be reliable would probably be 2 to 300$
Thank you Brian! This is a very useful and informative video. UDP really works very well and it is very convenient. I liked your AgIO, which displays a color connection, it’s very convenient!
Great instructional video, These are very useful to many of us. I totally understand the reasons for going to ethernet connection and will attempt converting from USB soon. Maybe not this season. My one question is how you connect F9P thru ethernet connector? Is there a way to connect to ethernet hub? Or are you still using usb for F9P?
I use usb without issue, but only chose it due to most components already having the usb. But i am using a usb micro, usb mini, and usb c to A all in the same project.
I think UDP only for is a good move overall faster is better. And the cables are as generic as they come. Can fix in field
But section control could be greatly simplified with @GoRoNb latest work with rs485 in agIO ,having relay modules that already are mass produced. 485 is just two twisted wires, and meant for noisy industrial locations.
I think better solution is switch everything to CAN. For example: AutoSteer module - new PCB with can interface, Dual GPS (or single) new PCB with can interface. Optional machine pcb with can interface. And everything connected to one can bus. At the end of bus must be tablet with AGiO, but in usb must be plugged some king of CAN to USB converter (maybe based of Arduino or esp32). So AGiO must read all data and split this data to different place in Agopen app. So 3 pin cable (CanH, CanL, GND) must be for communication. Then every problem with usb com port I think must gone. Can bus as you now is placed in car, tractors, trucks and there it works perfectly with more devices than In aog.
Maybe there is external solution for this - others pcbs, but I think we must add this to original PCB. Of course in ino file must be option to enable can-bus or usb - no problem.
But as I can see - we have a lot of pcbs, different ino files etc. So I think, we must make one version for everyone (of course not one, maybe 3 or 4 for different configuration of GPS or valves/motors).
I believe Brian addressed this previously in this very topic.
Truth be told even auto makers are planning to move from CAN to a form of Ethernet.
While AOG speaks UDP natively (I assume eliminating the need for AgIO), it’s still possible to make a little custom program (daemon in Linux parlance) like AgIO to bridge between UDP and legacy serial or CAN.
Is there an UDP-Teensy-PANDA and an UDP-Teensy_Autosteer ino for AOGv5.5?
I have fund “Autosteer_Teensy_UDP_v5_0”(1 feb 2022) on Github but I’m not able to make it work.
I have my computer on 192.168.5.5 as the video but I guess I have other addresses to change in AOI and in the .ino?
No router or switch, just an USB/ethernet adapter.
Okey right, so maybe you are right. But I think we must create one topic about pcb, schematics, Ino files - official and others mods. I know there is old post but it’s old
We are building that GPS single/dual Ublox/bynav/spetentrio Autosteer board where you just add power and udp cable. So that will be very easy. If we can get the parts - big problem
Is the new board equipped with an integrated ethernet switch, or does the teensy combine all the “magic” (GPS+Autosteer), or does the board have two ethernet connections (one for GPS, one for Autosteer)?
Great work by the way. The whole AOG crew does an amazing job.
